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- phgruver: @Bert953 $D Look at the utilities sector, $XLU, and you'll see that they peaked, back in early Dec. Of the ones I follow, $D is my least favorite. Management is too "woke", IMHO. Better plays, in the same space, are $DUK and $SO. I also own $AEP, but they are a bit ahead of the others, in this move, but might be worth considering. I would not consider investing in a utility that has exposure to CA., for obvious reasons.
- mopick: @phgruver $D $XLU $DUK $SO $AEP, how are they "too woke?"
- phgruver: @Wolf $UTF Interesting fund, but with an expense ratio of 3.97%, they are getting half of your dividend. I own 3 of their top ten investments, $DUK, $D and $SO. I also like $AEP a lot.
- Cjauger: Holding up well $SN, $NU, $WLDN, $SO, $NLY
- phgruver: Healthcare $XLV, and utilities, $XLU are my best performers, so far today. In healthcare I have $ABBV, $BMY, $CVS and $PFE. I would suggest you stay away from $PFE, but the others are cooking! In utilities I have $AEP, $D, $DUK and $SO. I'm not real happy with $D, but the others all have nice charts and pay decent dividends. $AEP, $DUK and $SO are all breaking out from a squeeze and are above the upper Bollinger Band.
- woodman: @phgruver $XLV $XLU $ABBV $BMY $CVS $PFE $AEP $D $DUK $SO - Some additional sectors, perhaps: XLRE, SDY, maybe IHI (but nearing rising resistance), and maybe XLF & GLD/IAU (they are resting today)
- jaeran: @woodman $XLV $XLU $ABBV $BMY $CVS $PFE $AEP $D $DUK $SO
- phgruver: In doing my "health check" of my existing long term positions, I noticed that $XLU is trading just below an uptrending 50DMA, and may be ready to take the next leg higher. Interest rates play heavy on the sector, but they seem to be holding steady, so not much of a headwind. All my favorite names in this space, $AEP, $D, $DUK, $SO, are all finding support at the current level, and are all in spitting distance of the 50dma. As I see it, over the next few weeks,$XLU should be able to move back up to it's recent high at $73, a 7% move. Wait for a green day, but if the pre-market holds, that will be today. Keep in mind that most utilities pay generous dividends, so the downside is somewhat limited.
- phgruver: @traderbren $XLU $XLU Most members of $XLU offer significant dividends, that puts a floor under the price. $AEP=4.43%, $D=5.7%, $DUK=4.41%, $SO=4.13%. With the 50dma and the 200dma right below the current price, this ETF is definitely worth a look. I own significant LT positions in the listed stocks.
- curtis: @phgruver $XLU $AEP $D $DUK $SO (I would rather be in 30 day T Bills )
- phgruver: @curtis $XLU $AEP $D $DUK $SO T Bills may be safer, but $XLU will give you capital appreciation. In the long run, a much better deal - at least it has been for the last 20 years....
- phgruver: ...Meanwhile $XLU is up. Of my holdings, $AEP, $DUK and $SO are all looking pretty good. These are defensive stocks, and are used for income in a LT portfolio. None are at an "ideal" entry, but are near the middle of their trading range.
- phgruver: Utilities, $XLU, $AEP, $D, $DUK, $SO, are holding up well.
- phgruver: Hey @Dan, I'd love to contribute more, on either forum, but all I'm seeing is more of "nothing to do." None of the issues I watch are setting up. The only thing that I have that is up today are my electric utilities $XLU, $AEP, $D, $DUK, $SO. I guess this is an OK place to initiate or add, but I already have all I want....
- phgruver: Utilities ($XLU) are catching a bid today. Of the ones I follow, $AEP is doing the best, as it breaks above it's 200dma. $SO and $DUK are both below the 200dma, but climbing. I don't actually follow $ED, but it looks pretty good too. As for $D, I'd say avoid it.
- phgruver: Utilities, $XLU, are a little soft, this morning, but seem to be building a base. This may be a good entry point for someone looking to build up the income portion of their long term portfolio. You don't get much capital appreciation in utilities, but the dividends are steady and reliable. Pullbacks, such as this, are relatively rare opportunities to add. While they certainly could go lower, the relatively high yield puts a bid under them whenever they pull back. In my long term accounts, I am long $AEP, $D, $DUK and $SO. Of these, I like $D the least, but it also seems to have the most upside potential. RHRN, I would probably be most inclined to add to $DUK.
- cmaxwel1: @phgruver $XLU $AEP $D $DUK $SO (I have a position in $XLU that I am adding to)
- phgruver: The utilities, $XLU, but specifically $AEP, $D, $DUK, $SO are getting a bid, today, after selling off since 9/13/22. The initial heavy volume has tapered off, somewhat, but the price seems to be holding well above Friday's low. You don't invest in $XLU for capital appreciation, but you do look for selloffs as entry points for #VALUE and income. The utilities, generally, work like bonds providing a steady stream of income with minimal capital risk. This recent selloff was triggered by the view that bonds will become more attractive as yields increase. Is this the bottom for the $XLU? Hard to say, but with $DUK yielding 4.51%, I can't see income investors letting it go much lower. $AEP is at 3.76%, $D is at 4.15%, and $SO yields 4.24%.
- traderdl: @phgruver $XLU $SO $DUK $AEP - nice heads up!
- phgruver: By the way, watch electric utilities $XLU for a rebound. They pay real dividends, which puts a pretty solid floor under them. Right now, $SO is paying over 4%, and $DUK is at 3.9%. These are nearing bargain levels. I also like $AEP at 3.45%. $AEP and $SO are right at their 200DMA.....
- Pokersmith: @phgruver $XLU $SO $DUK $AEP Not so fast, rising rates provide competition to utilities pay out...
- issues: @phgruver $XLU $SO $DUK $AEP Also $ES has the highest rating (91 composite, C for Accumulation) of those in the IBD. NP
- Hackberry: @phgruver $XLU $SO $DUK $AEP Weekly chart shows $XLU breaking down below 50 this week where in the past it had bounced 3 previous times when it hit there, so, maybe caution FWIW.
- traderbren: #Weeklies - just some potential Weekly set ups that are worth keeping an eye on: $XEL, $NOC, $SO, $AMGN, $LLY, $CNC, $EPD, $WES
- Pokersmith: @traderbren $XEL $NOC $SO $AMGN $LLY $CNC $EPD $WES #Weeklies Nice work, thx
- Chaficp: $SO $AEP $ED in a squeeze mode. Starting phase 1. Jumping from SMA50
- snowbound: $SO Thank -you FORUM . This is a power chart breakout into its first day . It held short on Fridays close at previous swing high 02.03.20 but a break above present level looks like blue skies and a solid level to trade off of . WEEKLY view .
- Pokersmith: @snowbound $SO Yes, good pick. I own a piece through an ETF. Explore the whole sector / Industry group 📈. Large number of set ups, particularly in the Utilities / nat gas sub group. 👍👍
- snowbound: @Pokersmith $SO OK , keep 'em coming , thanks . Will
- greenpatrol: @sierramp $DTE $ED All three of these utilities each triggered an inside week and up on Thursday and Friday, respectively: $ETR $SO $BKH. The patterns look good to me. Long. Posted about $ETR and $SO triggers on Thursday.
- greenpatrol: $SO just triggered an inside week and up at 69.50
- Shopaholic526: $SO Looks like money is flowing into utilities. Anyone know why? No position.
- Momentariness: $SO strong at the open
- wanda1616: @champ $So #WEEK #thoughts #fearful #matters #timings #timings #News #not thank you champ. the biggest one for me is LIGHTS ON. i have a capacity to stick my head in the sand. i have massive gains but losses that equal 50 % of those gains. i finally ran a real report. so i must do a WAY WAY better job of containing losses and i should be good to go. it was quite an eye opener : o
- wanda1616: @wanda1616 $So #WEEK #thoughts #fearful #matters #timings #timings #News #not PS i have been a market participant for many years but i basically switched into this full time about 2 years ago. so i have been through alot with this. now im getting super serious and mathematical about it.
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then on Tuesdays Housing Starts and also New Building Permits will be reported....
..Always pay attention, stay focus and watch what #matters, for you, Not others and always turn all the lights on and don't ever work in the Dark.....
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- phgruver: OK, here is one to watch, for those who are looking for income, $SO, which provides electricity to much of Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi. Electric utilities have been taking a beating, lately, and a check of $XLU shows that it is touching the 200 ...
- cmaxwel1: @phgruver $SO $XLU $PCG ($so 59.57 would need to hold to add). I am long on this from 53.91 cost basis.
- mharps: @phgruver $SO $XLU $PCG Look at $so on a weekly-next div not till maybe August-seems to be no hurry
- phgruver: @cmaxwel1 $SO $XLU $PCG $so I'm not that generous. I want $60 to hold! I'm in from around $50, but this is my most recent utility. I'm not looking to add very much. I've been trying to diversify into the strongest of the utilities, but I don't want to be too dependent on one sector for income.
- Ajax4Hire: @phgruver $SO $XLU $PCG Epiphany. $PCG-PG&E will never thrive. Californians either hate $PCG for what it does or hate for the monthly bill $PCG extracts. Large scale electric power will be legislated, hated into oblivion(in CA first). What will comes after? Current "green" technologies(wind,solar,perpetual motion) can never supply enough power for a growing population and growing demand. Moving forward, the solution will be small, local, neighbor power plants(like a larger scale $GNRC solution). I have more on this idea but too long for this forum. My personal situation: 42home neighborhood $10k/home extra cost for 25kW/home, doable today with today's technology.
- boombust: Anybody looking at $SO . Just got above the 50ma and has been in long consolidation around the moving averages. Pretty define risk under 3%
- phgruver: @Kharrison67 Good dividend stocks change frequently, because they get overbought. Right now, the utilities $AEP, $DUK, $SO look pretty good, but $D has some question marks that need to be resolved before it's considered "safe". Some of the large pharma names , $ABBV, $BMY, $GSK, $PFE, also look good. $GSK and $ABBV are both in the 5% range on payout. Check the quarterly earnings against the dividend to make sure they can cover it. The BSD's and REIT's that usually dominate the income space aren't particularly safe, right now, because we don't know how badly the COVID displacement will hurt their earnings. High yielders aren't ever "safe" investments, but they have their place in an income portfolio. When all else fails, buy the $SPY or the $QQQ, after it's had a bad day or two.
- phgruver: Well, my $BAC dividend showed up in my account this morning. I've been in $BAC since 2009, but have added a few times along the way, so my cost basis in only $15/share. Given my cost basis, my yield is 4.8%. This, to me, is the essence of #VALUE investing. Find solid companies with sustainable dividends that are temporarily out of favor, buy and hang on. Often, this is headline driven, but you have to make sure it's not being caused by underlying weakness in the business. Right now, I'm watching the utilities for a setup. $AEP, $DUK and $SO are all showing market weakness.
- teacher5: @phgruver $BAC $AEP $DUK $SO #VALUE Good advice. Thanks.
- phgruver: @babas Not @Dan, but I am primarily a long term #VALUE investor that is learning to trade short term. Most of my investments are semi-permanent, and generate significant income to fund my retirement. That said, I took advantage of the recent weakness to add to my positions in $D and $PFE. All the utilities are a little beaten down, but I particularly like $D, but I would also consider $SO on any pullback or sign of weakness. As for the drug companies, $PFE is buy-able RHRN. The divy is 4.56%. $BMY isn't quite as attractive, at 3.17%, and I also hold $ABBV at 5.12%. These last 2 didn't pull back as much as $PFE did, but all are, IMHO, good LT investments.
- babas: @phgruver $D $PFE $SO $BMY $ABBV #VALUE Thank you for your advice. Not very close to retiring myself, the way things are going, but trying to prepare.
- Danzguy: @babas $D $PFE $SO $BMY $ABBV #VALUE Good plan, man! I studied Dan, and others, for ten years before I retired. It gave me a heck of a jump start on my retirement hobby. The hard part is forcing myself to exercise! You just HAVE to do that! Trade'em well!
- phgruver: @bRobert $XLU $D I added to my $D position this week. It has the most promising chart, and the best risk/reward of the utilities that I follow. I also own $AEP, $DUK, $SO. Steady Eddie income producers.
- bRobert: @phgruver $XLU $D $AEP $DUK $SO YES. $D. my favorite chart Very easy to hold $ED. off the floor Good swing trade utility due to volatility It always recovers
- phgruver: Utilities are doing well today as well. $XLU is up 3%. I'm holding $AEP (+1.36%), $D ( 1.9%) $DUK ( 2.53%) and $SO ( 3.46%) Remember, that all these pay significant dividends, and their business models won't be too severely impacted by COVID-19. I hold all these in long term investment accounts. These are not trades.
- cmaxwel1: Utilities ? Why the sell off in Utilities. Looking to add to existing positions in $SO $CMS $XLU
- heyjack: @cmaxwel1 $SO $CMS $XLU as somebody mentioned here, the threat of increased regulation on their ability to adjust rates and their ability to disconnect if you can't pay, might be a factor.
- debeers: @cmaxwel1 $SO $CMS $XLU -The answer is that Utes a re the hide out--get into your bomb shelter trade---now you know.
- phgruver: @mikey1942 $DUK All the utilities are getting crushed! I also have $AEP, $D and $SO. Just take a look at $XLU, though, and you see the picture. Electric utilities aren't going out of business (except maybe in Cal.), but they may be forced, by regulators, to cut their dividends. Also, governments are moving to deny utilities the ability to cut off service for non-payment, (most have already implemented non-cutoff policies on their own) and may even go toward debt forgiveness. Right now, though, I really thing utilities are oversold.
- cmaxwel1: @traderbren $XLU (Added small position today).. Like thesis of low interest rates, utilities will outperform. Own $SO $CMS in long term accounts.
- csd: $spot, $so
- Ajax4Hire: @Forexpro Good to know, Bond Proxy(Interest Rate): Utilities and Real Estate. Explains why I was stopped out of $SO - Southern Co a Electric Power utility. Thanks for the information/analysis.
- Bridget: $SO trading right at the 21dMA. Consolidating nicely within the uptrend. 50dMA not too far below.
- Bridget: @bRobert $XLP $XLU $D yes like $XLU too. Looking at getting into $SO.
- phgruver: $XLU $AEP $D $DUK $ED $SO Utilities have taken a beating, these past 2 days, but the pullback is only to the 20 DMA. $DUK and $D seem to be the weakest, of the ones I follow. With respectable yields, $D=4.8%, $DUK=4.22%, this may be a place to add. I, personally, would like to see more of a pullback, as the utilities are quite extended, but the last meaningful pullback was back in late Dec. 2018, (along with everything else.)
- phgruver: @champ $XLU $T #Out #TNX I'm not sure what's going on either, but I think that it probably has to do with $XLU being a defensive position, so it goes up with "Risk off" and down with "Risk on!" Today was definitely a "Risk o ...
- phgruver: @bRobert $ED $DIN $AEP is up 1.18%, $D is up 1.25%, $SO is up 1%. In times of uncertainty, investors tend to turn to the electric utilities. Frankly, though, as they are near their ATH's, and interest rates appear to be going lower, I'm expecting a pull back.
- mopick: @phgruver $ED $DIN $AEP $D $SO, if interest rates are going even lower why then would you expect utilities to lose value?? Logically, would seem to me, just the reverse.
- 1winkie: $AEP, $PPL, $D, $SO - Utilities electric - good dividends - all still doing well
- michaelH: @1winkie $AEP $PPL $D $SO Many look like they are ready to break out
- Trixie: @1winkie $AEP $PPL $D $SO Some of the #food or #StapleStocks are also doing quite well. $HRL, $MKC, $LW .Often goes with the scary market.
- phgruver: $XLU $AEP $DUK $ED $SO Utilities got clobbered again today. The index $XLU is down 1.37% and resting on the 100 DMA. This has been a sharp decline, I suspect because of the expectation of rising interest rates. The $XLU yields 3.45%, and a number of it's components do significantly better. Even if treasuries hold above 3%, utilities are a good buy, especially if you add on pullbacks. I'm looking to add, once I see the bottom is in.
- phgruver: $XLU $AEP $D $DUK $ED $SO Electric utilities took a 2% hit yesterday, on the anticipation that interest rates will go up by 0.5% by year end. If you are looking to add some steady dividend payers to your long term portfolio, this may be a good entry.
- phgruver: @phgruver $XLU $AEP $D $DUK $ED $SO I added to $XLU, this morning, at $53. So far, it's a reversal day....
- phgruver: @justinp $XLU $BKH $NRG $NFG $NEE Actually, $XLU is a reasonable investment vehicle. It has a 3.31% dividend, and tracks it's underlying sector fairly well. In addition to $XLU, I also have holding in $DUK and $AEP. Other include $SO and $D. Electric utilities generally provide a good steady income, and, as they are out of favor right now, a pretty good long term entry.
- justinp: @phgruver $XLU $BKH $NRG $NFG $NEE $DUK $AEP $SO $D Thanks, much appreciated. Seems like a sector that has moved into favor so more for the LT holdings. I suspect there are some yield hogs as well.
- phgruver: @debeers #Finland #Finland #Finland $XLU $DUK $AEP $SO $D $ED Actually, a safe recommendation, as utilities are way oversold. They may not outperform for the next quarter, but they will almost certainly make money.
- bRobert: @phgruver $XLU $DUK $AEP $SO $D $ED #Finland #Finland #Finland $XLP . too
- phgruver: $DUK, $AEP, $SO, $D, $XLU Utilities are getting clobbered today! $XLU just engulfed 8 trading days, and is down over 3%.
- cb: @tkcoretrader Check these out $XLU $AEP $DUK $ED $SO $XLU
- phgruver: @tkcoretrader I'm in $DUK and $AEP, but $SO and $D are also good. Actually, just look up the top 10 holdings of $XLU, and take your pick. I do insist on a good dividend, though, as these are generally slow movers, and suitable as long term holds. If you buy on pullbacks, you can do pretty well. If you can't decide, a stake in $XLU also works. Right now, most utilities are a bit extended.
- phgruver: @wijimmy $ED I don't follow $ED, but I do follow $AEP, $DUK, $SO and $XLU. The electric utilities seem to be working on a bottom. A very oversold sector, given the dividend %. The market assumption seems to be that they can't grow, and that they won't be able to get any rate hikes either. I don't think that's realistic. With and average 3.44% yield, I'd say these are still attractive when the 10yr yield is only 3%.
- wijimmy: @phgruver $ED $AEP $DUK $SO $XLU ....AGREED THX
- phgruver: $XLU $AEP $DUK $SO $NEE $D, etc. (pick your favorite) Electric utilities are doing better lately. Maybe the bottom is in.
- nestorsch1: @Dan any comments on $SO ? Is it a good volatility squeeze candidate?
- DAN: @nestorsch1 $SO I don't think so. It's in a tight range...but that's the way this stock trades. Utilities don't move much. Might be going higher from here...but I don't think it's because it's in a squeeze.
- nestorsch1: @DAN $SO Thank you. Trying to see if I'm refining my trader's skills. Still a long long road ahead. I'm glad it's been done here with you.
- phgruver: $XLU $DUK $AEP $ED $SO Utilities are looking "frisky" this morning. Right now they look like they'll gap up on the open. As a sector, they are way oversold, so this may be the reversion to the mean that I've been looking for. This could lead to a week or two of out performance for the sector. These are normally holding stocks, but this could be the rare swing long opportunity....
- phgruver: $XLU $DUK $AEP $SO $ED Utilities may have bottomed a few days ago. Strong gains in the sector yesterday and today. These are rate sensitive defensive names.
- Iceman: #FallinghKnives – stocks hitting 52Week lows are by definition falling knife candidates. However the current list from Friday is exclusively REIT or Utility companies. Does the following list tell us anything about the direction of interest rates or the direction of the real estate market over the next six months??? $VTR $HCP $HCN $KIM $EIX $VNO $O $AVB $SO $AIV
- phgruver: $XLU, $DUK, $AEP, $SO Utilities are still strong, counteracting weakness in other sectors. "Safe" yields, small risk to principal. $DUK and $AEP are right in the middle of their trading ranges.
- phgruver: $XLU Utilities coming off the bottom of their trading channel. Seen by many as alternatives to bonds, this could be a good entry for a little extra juice. With yields in the 3%-4% range, something to consider. I'm long $DUK and $AEP, but others, like $SO and $ED are also working.
- phgruver: $XLU ($DUK, $AEP, $SO etc.) Utilities are pulling back, in anticipation of another rate hike, I think. It may be setting up a buying opportunity. All the listed tickers are approaching the bottom of their trading channels. These are income stocks that should only be bought on pullbacks.
- Bridget: $SO and $DUK moving higher. Will we start to see more rotation into $XLU?
- Bridget: $DUK and $SO are both at the HOD. $XLU is the only sector really up today.
- Bridget: Notes: Blood bath today $XLK- getting hit $MSFT $IBM $CRM,$WDC, $MCHP $SMH $FB toppy $AMZN - red candle from top to bottom BB $XLF - everything got hit, regionals especially $KRE $IBB - further breakdown $XRT - this worst performer continues to lead to the downside $XLY - big reversal $F $GM $FCAU - all breaking down $BERY - breakdown out of squeeze $PWR - same $VEEV - pullback $HCLP - looks shortable Making bullish moves: $PM RAI $MO - sin stocks still work $ALRM - breaking higher after earnings. Cup pattern on the weekly $SFM - not affected by this market downturn, still seeing buyers $TWO - still working $DNKN $PNRA - another new high $PEP $KO - both moved higher $DUK $SO - $XLU is the defensive sector $ABX - so is gold $JELD - this ipo is working
- bwcarnation1: $SO utility that is breaking above recent range and E over
- stevef214: #Utilities I noticed yesterday that utilities turned from down to up and they are now continuing higher the second day, $ED, $DUK, $SO. At first I thought that the market was back to seeking some safety with yield but then it could be they turned up when oil turned down. Just an observation to think about.
- phgruver: @stevef214 $ED $DUK $SO #Utilities You could add $AEP to that. Electric utilities are coming off a pull back. Might be a good time to add in a long term portfolio.
- Bridget: $XLU $SO utilities heading lower today. This move lower off the 200MA is a sign the downtrend is going to continue.
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Bridget: ...
$FN - bounce failed today, strength is getting sold
$NTES - at support
$NCR - flagging but still holding up
$EW - breaking down further
$GE - same
$PAYC - at support, could be a good buying opportunity short term
$TSO - at support. good covered call ...
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