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Strategy Session May 19th, 2014

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  • DAN: ...
    $SPY -- Predictable pause here. Do not look for more.
    $TNX -- It’s likely that the increase in the bid for treasuries is waning here.
    $DIA -- 200-day MA ceiling.
    $DJT -- still in downtrend. Not where you want to be.
    $COMPQX -- This is encour ...
  • DAN: Good morning. The broader market is down a bit this morning in light of the attack on Israel. The airline stocks are down as typically happens during time of geopolitical conflict.

    Here are stocks that are important to watch this week:

    Pepsi ($PEP) ...
  • Angdionk: $C moving
  • Angdionk: $C is bumping against resistance
  • Forexpro: ...
    I enjoyed the time with my daughters - almost always - as they were growing up, but one of the benefits of all of us getting older is that I'm not obligated to shell out time and money to see Super Mario Bros. A win! Speaking of which, if you were l ...
  • DAN: ...
    Good morning. Banks are booking it today, with solid revenues in the first quarter. This is pushing he stock higher and giving more support to the $XLF, $DJUSBK and $KRE. As I've recently noted, the S&P 500 ($SPX) has some pretty solid suppor ...
  • joelsg1: @DAN $XLF $DJUSBK $KRE $SPX $JPM $GS $MS $WFC $C $BAC $MARA $RETA $CROX $MNST Good luck Conner!
  • vitoB: $FAZ inverse banks HOD, on backs of the best case scenarios, $JPM best money center with ability to make revenue on deposits , $C most discounted to book, and $WFC habitual dissapointer. $PNC is the best regional bank with a good quarter and its now down 2%...jsut sayin
  • DAN: @joelsg1 $XLF $DJUSBK $KRE $SPX $JPM $GS $MS $WFC $C $BAC $MARA $RETA $CROX $MNST Thanks!! He's a good kid. Deserves the best!
  • joelsg1: @DAN $XLF $DJUSBK $KRE $SPX $JPM $GS $MS $WFC $C $BAC $MARA $RETA $CROX $MNST Quick stupid story about when I took the CA Bar. About 20 minutes in, some idiot gets up loudly, yells "I am a covenant running with the land" and runs out. Quick chuckle, then back to the essays. Moral of story: Keep focus! Cheers
  • DAN: @joelsg1 $XLF $DJUSBK $KRE $SPX $JPM $GS $MS $WFC $C $BAC $MARA $RETA $CROX $MNST LOL. Thanks joel. He says he feels like he did ok. Didn't feel like he aced it...but who does? I remember taking mine. It really wasn't stressful for me...but I was just going to law school because it sounded fun. Stakes were lower for me.
  • vitoB: $WAL regional bank, looks finally to have stabalized, been chopped twice today but in now in the green 28.38...I dont anticipate holding any of this after the close..but $TW back to the 50dma looks good, $C if mexico is growing this mega bank is positioned there, $FITB another regional i like, $MS 1.5x book seems like a good base...all on the top of the list for next week's World Cup of bank earnings next week
  • vitoB: @vitoB $WAL $TW $C $FITB $MS ...darn really jynxed myself on $WAL turned red quick
  • champ: $KEY bank just turned off of the bottom on Friday, so it is #still-early and on positive Bank #News, that started this morning..... ..........this is what I'm guessing.... ....on $KEY, the new swingers from Friday, they took their profits off this morning and Now they will be getting Back-in...... and for me,......because of #another-Bank...$C....they upgraded this stock this morning, so this is Now a short-term Hold and Build.
  • vitoB: @champ $KEY $C #still-early #News #another-Bank ... I also am watching these bank tickers. $FITB $MTB
  • champ: @vitoB $KEY $C $FITB $MTB #still-early #News #another-Bank...I like the Banks today, however my Top-pick is $KEY and as of RHRN... it is up 6.4%, even higher than this 3-X's ETF..$FAS...
  • Forexpro: ...
    Yes, I agree that the semis were everything we want those games to be annually, and although I've always had a soft spot for the Wolverines I'm still delighted to see an outsider break in to the finale. Now, much more importantly, as to your son's c ...
  • joelsg1: @Forexpro $SPY $STT $BK $JPM $NTRS $C Wow, amazing info and insight, thank you heartily. I hope the Kid appreciates the time, effort and wisdom imparted, I certainly do. P.S. he does, and appreciates your generosity. Their fledgling West Coast operation is trying to ramp at a difficult time, but at least no shortage of parking, as I understand. He’s attracted interest from some others, like $SIVB, so he has a tough decision this month, better informed by you. Thanks again for your kind reply.
  • marklesparkle: @Forexpro $GS $MS $JPM $BAC $C "He who knows what he knows and he who knows what he does not know,, That is knowledge"
  • Forexpro: ...
    Just doing my usual Saturday wandering around the interweb, and this chart in a Bloomberg.com article caught my eye. Banks looking to help a transaction along (and collect the associated fees) will often lend the cash needed. They then securitize th ...
  • champ: $TTD...at $50.81 ...nice up grade today by $C, with a price target at $60, no clue on direction, is why I'm trailing...
  • champ: @bigbartabs $TSLA #Upgrade.....that was a $C upgrade after hitting a 2-year low, .....plus #yesterday there was News that this was on a #Buy-the-Dip list...and this was on #radar-Watch....yesterday this stock was in News, at BriefingTrader..... plus everybody has their own #opinions....however the only thing that counts is Entry-timings....and IMO that happens mainly off of News.....
  • bigbartabs: @champ $TSLA $C #Upgrade #yesterday #Buy-the-Dip #radar-Watch #opinions ... Roger that. I bought some right after the FED announcement. I mentioned earlier... its low risk here, bouncing off of the 200 week MA. Could be a big rip come Monday.
  • champ: @bigbartabs $TSLA $C #Upgrade #yesterday #Buy-the-Dip #radar-Watch #opinions ....Exactly...the 200 #week MA.
  • champ: @bigbartabs $TSLA $C #Upgrade #yesterday #Buy-the-Dip #radar-Watch #opinions.....On Friday....it might move a little more and traders/computers might even take some off or all on Friday..just never know...?
  • champ: $LBRT @ $16, Liberty Energy is an #OilField-Service Co, that has been #under-the-radar-screens but is now finally getting nice upgrades after beating on Earnings last week....$C raised to $25 and $MS raised to $23. Now has Entry-timing...... ....and to give investors an idea on their earnings beat..... EBITDA increased to $277m from $196m in the second quarter and was up a huge 765%, from $32m, from the third quarter of 2011.....and revs were up 83.6% YoY. ......I did get back in with a new Investment position, I have been out of this position now for awhile.....and I have been In and Out over the years....and for me it is #time to get back in, with a Low-Risk entry.... .....and a few others in this same sector are $SLB $HAL $BKR..... ....and there is a pass posting Info thread in the forum on this stock.
  • Docoof: @champ $LBRT $C $MS $SLB $HAL $BKR #OilField-Service #under-the-radar-screens #time This one in OilField Services looks good and is also doing well today: $CHX
  • champ: @Docoof $LBRT $C $MS $SLB $HAL $BKR $CHX #OilField-Service #under-the-radar-screens #time,......Thanks I will check it out....looks like Chemical Technologies, for the OilFields and other sectors.
  • Docoof: @champ $LBRT $C $MS $SLB $HAL $BKR $CHX #OilField-Service #under-the-radar-screens #time 8th biggest holding in $OIH. (Fwiw)
  • champ: @Docoof $LBRT $C $MS $SLB $HAL $BKR $CHX $OIH #OilField-Service #under-the-radar-screens #time.....thats interesting....
  • stairm01: $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS Any feelings on these banks and FAS going into all of their earnings in the morning.? They have had big moves today. Large Bullish engulfing candles. I was long FAS off of the turn this morning and took profits at $59.40. Will I regret it tomorrow or will I be happy?
  • champ: @stairm01 $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS ....Watch $BAC...because if these others bounce in the morning, $BAC will follow, they will be reporting Monday morning.
  • stairm01: @champ $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS $BAC All have moved on higher than average volume. If they move again tomorrow, Monday will most likely be a down day after two big moves.
  • phgruver: @stairm01 $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS I suspect both.... I would be cautious about holding individual banks over earnings, it's always a crap shoot, unless you are sitting on substantial gains (I'm up 110% on $BAC), but holding $FAS or $XLF might be a good strategic move, as they are not levered to any single bank. Overall, banks should benefit from rising interest rates. @Forexpro had a post explaining how this works earlier today.
  • stairm01: @phgruver $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS $BAC $XLF Yep, Key word is SHOULD!
  • champ: @stairm01 $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS .....my post was about $BAC....because they have less swing risk than the other banks......
  • Cjauger: $C $WFC $JPM $MS kick off bank’s earnings tomorrow
  • champ: @phgruver $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS $BAC $XLF.....$BAC had a nice move today....just don't see that very often and I'm swinging 1/2 of my $BAC position.
  • Bert953: @champ $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS $BAC $XLF the banks all report tomorrow.
  • champ: @Bert953 $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS $BAC $XLF....Not $BAC...they report on Monday.
  • phgruver: @champ $JPM $MS $C $WFC $FAS $BAC $XLF Obviously, I don't trade $BAC, but I do keep an eye on it. Today's volume, 66M+ was about 150% average volume (44M). I would say lots of short covering, probably with more tomorrow. With a 2.95% yield, it's not a bad LT entry, either.
  • champ: $DJI...$SPY....as we all know the CPI Report will be in the morning.....so today has to be a Set-up day for Investors, who want to swing positions.. going into the close....
    ....and the question for today is, will they swing....
    and the other questio ...
  • scottrades: Some #Earnings to be aware of this week. Tis the season 😅 $JPM $PEP $TSM $DAL $MS $C $UNH $BLK $WFC $DPZ $AZZ $WBA $USB $CMC $FAST $PNC $PGR $WIT $FRC $THTX $DCT $ETWO $APLD $VLNS $INFY
  • stairm01: @vcondry $BX Looks similar to many Yield Hogs ($NLY-17% $CLM- 25.98% $AGNC-15.8% $NEWT-16.5%) and banks ($BAC $JPM $FAS $C) in general. They all have rolled off a cliff and dropping like a rock. I'm watching for a bottom in AGNC and CLM, provided they continue to pay their dividend.
  • vcondry: @stairm01 $BX $NLY $CLM $AGNC $NEWT $BAC $JPM $FAS $C It operates much differently than those companies though. Not a REIT and I don't believe was ever intended to be a yield hog just has gotten crushed with the wider market.
  • Wykeman: $GS 13% in 3 days $C more than that. Just be aware if your jumping in now..
  • Forexpro: Re: Retail Sales, etc.

    Good Morning, Friends,

    Retail sales are out and came in slightly stronger at plus 1 percent for June than the 0.9 percent consensus. Here's a link to the release, which offers a comparison chart:

    https://tinyurl.com/4nx3j4e6 ...
  • sierramp: @Forexpro $C $WFC $BLK $BK $MS $JPM $BAC $GS $STT Thank you for your morning perspective and for the laugh!
  • Forexpro: Re: Banks, etc.

    Good Morning, Friends,

    Equity futures are up, but they were up more 90 minutes or so ago as of 8:45 EDT. I'm not really seeing much of interest. As Lady DeBeers noted earlier, the media theme this morning is "China's Great Reop ...
  • champ: $ALLY...#Ally-Financial is at $43...nice Bank, nice investment position, off of that nice turn....nice, nice, nice, thats 3-nice's .....plus still holding $BAC $MS $ZION...but I dumped $C,..took profits.
  • champ: $BAC at $36.50, ...nice move I added a little more this morning...I'm also holding these swings ...$C, $MS, $ALLY and $ZION....and I'm trading $FAS...now at $85.
  • champ: $BAC $ALLY $ZION $C.........and $MS...is HOD, at $85.40 up around 3%, +$3.00...I'm holding a swing and I thought that it could be problematic, I was waiting for a sector bounce.... ...on all of my banking swings Set-ups ...I almost took them down, however I held on.....$BAC $ALLY $ZION $C...these are all Investment positions....and I'm trading $FAS.. at $86.53, as of RHRN.
  • champ: $SSO $TQQQ $AMZN $COST $LUV $UAL $CZR $PENN $DKNG $MGM $BALY $WRBY $BAC $MS $C $ALLY $ZION, these are my swing positions and I'm trailing all...these I posted on today and some of these Set-ups, were before today and on some of these, this was #add-on-Day. $UAL is a Day-Trade but I might do a step-down swing...because I'm swinging $LUV.
  • champ: $SPY/$SSO- - $COMPX/$TQQQ....Day-3 on both of these swing trades, however I took full profits today, off near the high-turns, only because, I didn't want to press my luck.....however I will be looking to get back-in...both and other ETF's that I have ...
  • LeAf: @Forexpro $XLF $C Thanks very much for your analysis
  • champ: $C ...is at $52.55 and this stock had a Trade-able turn, off of LOD $51.40, with nice volume, however these traders are $JPM professions....or $GS...traders.
  • champ: $DJI...plus 660 $COMPX $QQQ $SPY $SPX $FAS....looks like the markets are HOD...as of RHRN......and the Banks are leading the way....$BAC, $C and $JPM ---- $MS and others are also looking positive also ...$ALLY and $ZION...$KRE.....and everything starts out as a Day-Trade.
  • champ: $C and $JPM are both up 7%....and $BAC is right behind and all the others are following. ....$FAS is up 9.8%, as of RHRN.
  • bRobert: @LeAf $XLF $C Forexpo can give you a better explanation I trade the chart price action and leave the philosophy to the philosophers $FAZ $32 target 1 WEEKLY breakout Decreased loan activity Mortgages, business loans Less easy cash and perhaps desire to invest in an uncertain environment
  • LeAf: $XLF a few months ago financials were the place to be ahead of the expected rate hikes. Since then the sector went in a downward spiral with $XLF going from $41.5 in January to the $33 area today. Now we have seen the actual hikes and are expecting more to come....yet the market acts as if rate hikes wont be beneficial to the increase in bank future earnings. Buffet has already made his move on $C...any opinions on when we should dip in?
  • LeAf: @bRobert $XLF $C $FAZ thanks...apologies I deleted my previous post in error....but re posted it now
  • wanda1616: @LeAf $XLF $C bank analyst told me financials do horribly during stagflation. that may explain this
  • LeAf: @wanda1616 $XLF $C thanks for sharing. I considered it could possibly also be due to their current negative mark to market on their bond exposures. If this is the case this would be something temporary and would offer a good entry point.
  • Forexpro: @LeAf $XLF $C

    Hey, LeAf,

    Hope you're doing well. Yes, that's correct, marks to market on balance sheet holdings were a factor in last quarter's earnings, and that will clear up over time. There will be plenty of time for other errors. In the meant ...
  • champ: $Ally-Financial...at $40.75., I have a new Spec swing position......and Warren Buffet really likes Banks....and he took out a New position in this Bank...8.97 million shares....... .....plus also in $C, 55.6m-shares...... ....and his largest Bank position, is still with $BAC and he maintained his BoA position with 1010.1m-shares....and I have a swing position.
  • Forexpro: ...
    Just a quick chart of the "most active" stocks along with sector performance for the day. FWIW, I don't think that $C deserves to be up 8 percent because $BRK/B has been a buyer; those shares are already in the bank, so to speak. Now, it's ...
  • champ: @Forexpro $C $BRK ....It never matters what we Think...because it only matters what others Think. LOL
  • Docoof: $C $BRK.B $BRKA According to a 13F filing ah, $BRKB added a big stake in $C. Berkshire bought more than 55 million shares of $C to build a stake worth $2.95 billion as of the end of March, the filing showed. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/16/warren-buffetts-berkshire-made-a-3-billion-bet-on-citigroup-here-are-his-other-picks.html
  • Docoof: @Docoof $C $BRK $BRKA $BRKB Better links: https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-citigroup-paramount-verizon-q2-stock-portfolio-2022-5?amp https://www.barrons.com/amp/articles/berkshire-hathaway-sold-nearly-all-its-verizon-stake-in-the-first-quarter-51652741474
  • champ: @Docoof $C $BRK $BRKA $BRKB....On his 13F filing, it looks like his $BAC position, is almost double the size of his $C position, which is 55.16m shares.
  • Forexpro: Re: $C Hi, Friends, An erroneous trade sent out by someone who will soon be a former employee of $C caused a "flash crash" in Europe, briefly (5 minutes) wiping $315 bn off the local index (although the trade was supposedly in Swedish stocks; must have been a BIG number). To my surprise, $C's stock isn't really reacting. The bank is going to get slammed; this latest episode will be viewed by regulators - I suspect - as part of a pattern of sloppiness, and the pressure on $C will last longer and cost more to alleviate (systems, compliance people, etc.). Maybe the regulators will just throw up their hands and confess failure, but I don't think that's the way to bet. Of course, the daily chart remains pretty disastrous part from any moves that occur during the current session. Best of luck today!
  • Forexpro: ...
    Sigh. I still own a smidge of $MS, because I'm confident of the former investment bank's prospects despite the contrary evidence offered by the daily chart. Truth to tell, it has rolled over on the weekly chart, as well. So, just a smidge. However, ...
  • wanda1616: @Forexpro $MS $DB $BCS $C what next
  • Forexpro: @wanda1616 $MS $DB $BCS $C Hey, Wanda1616, Not knowing "what next" makes it more fun, doesn't it? Put clever people in contact with lots of money, and all sorts of shenanigans can ensue. As the best head trader I ever worked with responded on one of the occasions when I complained that one of his monkeys was gaffing one of my (and the bank's) most important clients: "I know he's a weasel! I want weasels working for me!" So I guess the guy was both a monkey and a weasel. So there you have it. I note that $KBE, although highly (0.87) correlated with the $SPX has been outperforming of late to a modest degree. Here's hoping that you're well, and thriving; all the best!
  • wanda1616: @Forexpro $MS $DB $BCS $C $KBE $SPX youre so kind. thank you. my ex BF was a bond trader and he used to do hiring. he told me the ONLY answer he wanted in an interview regarding why they wanted the job was : I WANT TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. and there is/was no accountability. lower tranches push the envelope for the higher guys and if the boom falls they (the lowers) are disposable...
  • DAN: ...
    $MDY -- If you’re looking for a rally here, you’re looking in the wrong place.
    $IWM -- This looks really ugly…as you’d expect small caps to look within a rising rate environment.

    The strongest sectors have broken.
    $XLE
    $OIH ...
  • Forexpro: Re: $BK, Custodial Banks

    Hi, Friends,

    I'm torn, because when I was at $STT, $BK was The Great Satan, although we were a league above when it came to FX; $BK hired our castoffs. On the other hand, they regularly underpriced us for custody mandates, ...
  • Forexpro: Re: $C

    Hi, Friends,

    Sometimes, expectations are so low that there's really nowhere to go but up. That sorta seems to be the case with $C, which had pegged potential losses from Russian exposure at up to $5 bn. Now, it's looking at something in the ...
  • rem2088: @Forexpro $C I do always enjoy your prose and especially your insight !
  • wanda1616: @Forexpro $C incredible how it has barely recovered from the financial crisis. i wonder how sandy weill feels about this...
  • Forexpro: @rem2088 $C Very kind, @Rem2088, thanks!
  • champ: $DRI...at $132...Darden/#Olive-Garden Restaurants...#News..the Restaurant Bill passes and now moves over to the Senate, see Upgrades and price targets, $C came out today at $162 ....others at $134 to $180.
  • Forexpro: Re: Financials

    Hi, Friends,

    A question came up during Dan and Scott's very valuable session as to why with interest rates rising financials aren't performing better (although they're up today, for the most part). I do have a couple of quick thought ...
  • Forexpro: Re: $C Hi, Friends, Not one of my stocks, but one I keep an eye on. It has the largest exposure to Russia of U.S. banks, according to analyst Mike Mayo of $WFC. He estimates the hit to earnings at $1.5 bn, which works out to 0.76/share, take or give. The bank reported $1.46/share (diluted) the last time around, if I'm not mistaken, so that's a good chunk. The stock, of course, has been anticipating less than stellar news. All the best!
  • champ: @Forexpro $C $WFC --- Thats a name that I know and he is the best banking analyst there is, IMO....NP on either, however as you already know.. because of all of our pass posts on $WFC ...I like $WFC, however for now I only have large positions in $BAC and $ZION. LOL
  • Forexpro: ...
    I'm always looking at financials. I've attached a quick and dirty look at the yield curve differential ("2s-10s") that people tend to use as a snapshot of banks' profit opportunities. It's going the wrong way. In addition, most of the big ...
  • bRobert: @marklesparkle #FCX $GLD is a multi year $C&H 100% move with a trigger $XOP monthly Cup retrace to $170+ level Base at $40
  • champ: @wanda1616 $RBLX ....On $SKLZ...see my posts...#Upgrade at $C to $9...
  • champ: $SKLZ..at $4.35...HOD-L.. with size...Upgraded to $9, by $C...has timing, posted yesterday, Bounce-Party, don't be late.
  • champ: $SKLZ...at $4.50...the is a nice Bounce-Candidate, posted earlier and entries are climbing higher ...and my guess is, could see maybe $5.50 - $6.50 to $7, before they report their earnings on 2/23/after/confirmed....and $C.. just upgrade to $9.00. This company owns one of the #1 games, maybe check this company out.....
  • champ: $SKLZ is at $4.05, #Bounce-Candidate...and $C came out and upgraded with a Buy, with a price target at $9, new position on the open.....this looks like #Entry-Timing, for an investment-swing. ....$RBLX is their competitor...NP.
  • DrScience: $C #CoveredCall Wanted: Bank Exposure. How about laying siege to CitiGroup for a 15-day Covered Call to capture the dividend and gain exposure to a stock in the banking sector. The stock pays $0.51 (3.08% annualized) and goes ex-div on Friday, Feb 4 ...
  • Forexpro: ...
    Some lucky winner got a lowball bid for Mister Softee filled at 269 yesterday evening - and some less fortunate individual or entity sold it to them there - and the stock is now trading back over 300, albeit just over, as of 8 EST. I am pleased, as ...
  • bigbartabs: @Forexpro $MSFT $ATVI $GS $C $BAC ... I'm with you... with unarguable in our face inflation, I think the bet on Powell doing his first interest rate hike today is much more likely... than the once again "wait til next month to see" route. I have never seen a setup better than this for the FED to make the move they know is needed... and the nation and market would now accept. But I guess that's why neither of us is the FED chair :)
  • TeslaCoil: @bigbartabs $MSFT $ATVI $GS $C $BAC But like @Dan said, Powell's banking buddies need more time to sell their tech stocks so probably not going to raise rates until March.
  • bigbartabs: @TeslaCoil $MSFT $ATVI $GS $C $BAC ... one thing for sure, if true, and was ever divulged... would equal prison time.
  • TeslaCoil: @bigbartabs $MSFT $ATVI $GS $C $BAC None of those people ever spend time in prison, let's be honest. You also aren't supposed to know how earnings are going to go for a company before they report but don't you think if you have a 1% to 5% interest in a company that they are going to let you know if things are going bad before they announce? Absolutely!
  • bigbartabs: @TeslaCoil $MSFT $ATVI $GS $C $BAC ... as I said... if that was ever divulged.
  • Forexpro: Re: Yield Curve, Banks

    Hi, Friends,

    This shorthand version of banks' borrowing costs versus lending opportunities ("2s-10s") isn't looking all that great once again, as the short end of the curve (which is most responsive to FOMC policy c ...
  • debeers: @Forexpro $JPM $C $WFC $BLK -all the best always, Forex!
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